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LED bias on parallel triodes

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:55 am
by Blair
When you set up a CCS like on Shannon's boards, you would set up the CCS for double the mA that each triode needs. Ex. 6mA paper triode would have the CCS set at 12mA.

If you would normally use two red LEDs for bias, but you parallel the triodes in a tube like the 6CG7, would you use 4 red LEDs?

Thanks!

Blair

Re: LED bias on parallel triodes

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:09 pm
by Shannon Parks
No. But your current will be 2x one triode.

Shannon

Re: LED bias on parallel triodes

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:40 pm
by Blair
OK,

It looks like you have the phase inverter CCS on the Poseidon board set to around 6.5-7mA. Does that not put each triode at 3-3.5mA?

Thanks!

Blair

Re: LED bias on parallel triodes

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:47 pm
by Shannon Parks
Blair wrote:It looks like you have the phase inverter CCS on the Poseidon board set to around 6.5-7mA. Does that not put each triode at 3-3.5mA?


Correct. I guess I should ask what is the proposed application for the LED bias to answer your question better.

Shannon

Re: LED bias on parallel triodes

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:58 pm
by Blair
Hi Shannon,

I was just going to do a parallel Anode Follower using a 6CG7. I figure around 12mA total for both triodes. Would I need to half the anode load resistor?

Thanks,

Blair

Re: LED bias on parallel triodes

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:12 am
by Shannon Parks
Here's a simulation from Tube CAD to help you visualize it all. The -3.63V bias would be two red LEDs.

Shannon

Re: LED bias on parallel triodes

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:22 am
by Blair
Thank you Shannon!

How much is TubeCad? That looks pretty nice.

Re: LED bias on parallel triodes

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:48 am
by Shannon Parks
Sadly, it is defunct software due to conflicts with the newer 64-bit versions of Windows. I run mine emulated in XP through VirtualBox. Maybe email John Broskie if he'll sell you a copy, as the resellers weren't carrying it anymore last we checked around here.

Shannon

Re: LED bias on parallel triodes

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:46 pm
by Gingertube
You could look at this:
http://www.beigebag.com/v5_features

No idea if it is affordable for a hobbiest.

I run B2 Spice for the day job.
It has a wizard for creating tube circuits and has extensive models for tubes. JB is/was one of the authors.

Cheers,
Ian