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New Years Eve 6LU8 amp

PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:09 pm
by TomMcNally
I just built this today. It uses 6LU8 Compactrons, and a GZ-34 rectifier.
The 6LU8 has been likened to a 12AT7 and a 6AV5 or EL-34 in one bottle.
I used an Edcor XPWR007 power transformer, GXSE15-8-5K OPTs and
a pair of Radio Daze RDC-100 chokes in series, with lotsa MFD's.
The thing kicks ass, and sounds really good.

More pix at http://tmamps.com

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Here's a link to the original design ...http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163886

PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:12 pm
by TerrySmith
Wow, that's pretty sweet! I like it when you use odd-ball tubes and it turns out nice. Is it triode connected or UL?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:37 pm
by TomMcNally
It seems like an ideal tube for a "spud" amp.

It's set up for UL operation.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:20 pm
by Geek
I just got a box of these. I'll have to give it a whirl :-)

Cheers!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:15 pm
by Sal Brisindi
Looks nice Tom,
I like the wide stance chassis you used. So how long did this one take to build, 2 hours?... :-)

Sal

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:15 pm
by EWBrown
Nice one! (love)

Those duodecar compactron sockets can be a real bear for point-to-point wiring, you did a very nice job.

I ckecked over at the Audio Karma site, and I spotted a major error in this particular 6LU8A amplifier's power supply wiring:

(I checked a DIY-ST-35, with a AN2T300, which I built about 3 years ago, in order to verify this ,before posting it)


The rectifier tube is a 6BY5GA, with the plates on pins 4 and 5, and the cathodes on pins 1 and 8, and the heater on 2 and 7.

See if you can spot the error, before reading my explanationposted below the photo.


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With the Antek PT's two yellow leads connected to the 6BY5GA's rectifier tube anodes, and the two white leads connected together as the center-tap.

What this does is create a paralleled half-wave rectifier, rather than a full-wave center tap situation, which would be the correct one. FWIW, this isn't the first time that I've seen this particular wiring error, with an Antek PT.

I posted a reply to this effect over there, for the builder.

/ed B

PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:42 pm
by kheper
EWBrown wrote:With the Antek PT's two yellow leads connected to the 6BY5GA's rectifier tube anodes, and the two white leads connected together as the center-tap.

What this does is create a paralleled half-wave rectifier, rather than a full-wave center tap situation, which would be the correct one. FWIW, this isn't the first time that I've seen this particular wiring error, with an Antek PT.

/ed B


From what I can tell from Antek's specs, for a full-wave center tap, the "inner" yellow from one winding and the "inner" white from the other winding need to be connected, then grounded.

http://www.antekinc.com/pdf/AN-2T300.pdf

What am I missing?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:22 pm
by EWBrown
From what I can tell from Antek's specs, for a full-wave center tap, the "inner" yellow from one winding and the "inner" white from the other winding need to be connected, then grounded.


That is correct.

In the "wooden" amp, the two yellow leads are connected to the rectifier anodes, and the two white leads are used as the ground / zero volts / centertap. With this conenction, the rectifiers will behave as two paralleled half-wave rectifiers, and not as a center tapped full wave.

The usual result of half-wave rectification would be reduced B+ voltage and a serious 60 Hz ripple / hum problem.

/ed B

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:42 am
by kheper

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:07 pm
by EWBrown
6LR8 is an alternative, equivalent tube, it has the same triode and pentode same "innards", but packaged in a Novar (9 pin compactron)
T-12 envelope.

http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/135/6/6LR8.pdf

Might be a good alternative if the crowded and close contact spacing of a duodecar socket is a bit too intimidating =:o

/ed B